Posts by Esse quam videri

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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

by Wasanelder Once in

"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

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How would you react if three elders showed up to encourage you?

Two came to my house on a Saturday. I told them to, 'come back Monday, I'm busy'. They never came back. I guess it wasn't really that important.

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Theories on the increasing appearances of the new GB aide?

by Lemonp in

i have noticed that younger guy appearing more and more on jw tv and in special talks.

can't remember his name but he is middle aged, greying, but has a business exec look about him.. is this guy the next gen of gb members?

or is he just an aide to help them about etc?

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One that has been very visible is Robert Luccioni.

This is the idiot who introduced the video about 'The Little Cart with a Big Heart '.

" And here we welcome you to listen to this wonderful song and watch this heart warming video about 'a little cart with a big heart.' My oh my, a little cart with little wheels and little shelves and a little handle that rolls around the neighbourhood. A little cart with a big heart video proudly introduced by Robert Luccioni. What a guy. Slick, suave, sophisticated, debonair. Future GB material. Future generations to come will listen to the words of wisdom coming from Robert Luccioni. They will obey instructions coming from the man who introduced the video about the 'little cart with the big heart'. Something to look forward to. I wonder what kind of animated crap he will come up with when in charge.

Yessir, Robert Luccioni. Fred Franz is dead, long live Robert Luccioni.

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Little cart with a big heart - latest design.

by Esse quam videri in

the little cart is growing up.. .

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The little cart is growing up.

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Where can I find an online copy of 'Babylon the Great' book published 1963?

by Esse quam videri in

pdf anywhere?

thanks for your help.

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Pdf anywhere? Thanks for your help.

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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

by DATA-DOG in

as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

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Why I think the Governing Body are the world's ultimate 'predators'

by Esse quam videri in

in a previous posting i made the statement that the governing body were the world's ultimate predators.

i will now give some reasons why this may be so.. for the purpose of this post i will provide the following definitions: .

- predator - a human who lives by predation.

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In a previous posting I made the statement that the Governing Body were the world's ultimate predators. I will now give some reasons why this may be so.

For the purpose of this post I will provide the following definitions:

- predator - a human who lives by predation

- predation - a mode of life by which a person acquires from another person or persons, that which they desire, usually for the sustenance and enjoyment of their life, but also to accomplish a goal or purpose. This may include getting food, clothing and shelter or more abstractly, prestige ,image and control of another person or persons. This control may range from authority to require simple instructions and tasks be performed to complete subjection of the prey.

- This can be divided into two main categories. The first is willing submission by the prey - passive predation, The second is unwilling submission - aggressive predation.

- Passive predation - would cause the prey to willingly submit to the will of the predator. If the predator supplied some benefit to the prey and fulfilled a desire of the prey, the prey would be more willing to submit without question. The benefit or fulfilled desire may be a reality or an illusion, however, in the prey’s mind, it would be real enough to willingly or even happily remain in subjection. A bond of affection for the predator may develop in the prey’s mind and heart. The prey’s needs would be supplied by the predator. These needs could include food, clothing, shelter, social standing, association and fulfillment of the prey’s own goals and purposes.

- Aggressive predation – would force the prey to submit to the will of the predator. The prey would be convinced that they would suffer in some way that would be damaging or harmful enough to force the prey to submit to the will of predator. Fear of loss, instilled by manipulation of words and threats, would be a primary method used by the predator. The predator would use threats to the prey, involving their life, happiness, social standing, loss of family relationships and material loss. The predator would use all avenues to bring this fear into the mind and heart of the prey, by highlighting examples of other damaged and harmed prey, by using agents specially taught to promote the predators purposes as well as the use of speeches and printed matter.

In the animal world the top predators stand out as most dangerous and in control. In the jungle the tiger would seem to some to be the ultimate predator. However, it would quickly become apparent that the lion has a great advantage over the tiger because it is a pack animal. The huge male rarely kills for the food. This is usually left up to the smaller females, successful because they work as a team. In the world’s oceans the great white shark may first come to mind as the ultimate predator, however, again the prize would go the animals working as a team. This time the killer whale wins first prize, being able to kill and devour much larger whales because it works as a team. In North America the grizzly may come to mind as the ultimate predator, however, two or three wolves, working together, can easily chase a large brown bear away from their kill. The wolf pack can run down virtually any prey it pursues, with persistence and team work. Again, the pack animal comes out ahead.

In the world of mankind, many predators who initially seemed to be in control have suffered defeat. Confidence men such as Bernie Madoff, who lived on the avails of a huge Ponzi scheme for years now looks to die behind prison walls. Numerous world leaders and business men, who seemed to have total control at the time, have gone down in defeat. What is the secret of being the ultimate predator? I submit that the following conditions would apply.

The ultimate predator would;

- work as a pack, a team effort.

- have the support of a sufficient number of people to support their lifestyle and goals, whether these supporters did so willingly or unwillingly.

- have no fear of threats, inside their organization, endangering their lifestyle or purposes.

- have no fear of threats, outside their organization, endangering their lifestyle or purposes.

- have total control over their environment.

- be able to control their environment for a very long time with no fear of loss of control.

To be called the ULTIMATE PREDATOR, I submit that, in all the earth, there is no group of men who qualify more than the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Unlike world leaders, they have no threat or fear of assassination or losing an election. They have no fear of an almost endless source of devoted followers willing to donate time and money for their projects. They have shown that they can manipulate the thinking of a worldwide membership, making radical changes in core beliefs, without the slightest ripple of rebellion or even questioning from the members. They have made statements concerning their position in God’s arrangement that should shake member’s beliefs to their core, such as stating that they are the mediator between God and man. They are now positioning themselves for further control by locking into the financial support of the congregations by making it compulsory and gaining ownership control of all properties. The future is being well planned for their continued control. They are the world’s ULTIMATE PREDATORS.

Comments?

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Biggest SCAM in the history of mankind - [except for Watchtower]

by Esse quam videri in

you may find this of interest.

how money and greed really work.. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25210y_the-biggest-scam-in-the-history-of-mankind-hidden-secrets_tech.

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hoser said,

' ..This is the financial conditions that we have to work under so we'd better get used to it. It is not changing anytime soon.,,'

I agree. However, when we are walking around in rags and looking for a place to sleep and some food to eat, our pain and misery may be easier to deal with if we know why. It probably will be much like the resolve shown by the Germans after WW II who put on a grim face, wandered around aimlessly and dealt with it.

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Are members of this forum part of the modern day 'strong arm squad'?

by Esse quam videri in

wt dec 1, 1934 page 363 par 34: .

'...the conspirators posted men at vantage points.

where the evidence they needed might he procured..

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WT Dec 1, 1934 page 363 par 34:

'...The conspirators posted men at vantage points

where the evidence they needed might he procured.

Likewise today the conspirators against Jehovah '8

witnesses post members of their strong-arm squad and

those of the Judas class where they can obtain evidence

against Jehovah's witnesses. A company of

these forming part of the Judas class camp near

the Bethel home in order that they may spy out what

goes on and misrepresent the facts, hoping thereby to

entrap those who are serving Jehovah God. If the

evidence at hand is not strong enough those "staked

out" witnesses make it stronger to suit their own desires...'

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WT instructions on NOT copying the 'Shepherd Flock of God' book.

by Esse quam videri in

shepherd the flock of god.

1 peter 5:2.

this publication is congregation property.

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cappytan said,

'So, any thoughts on sending the PDF to my entire congregation email distribution list? Obviously I would use an anonymous address'.

Heb 4:13 ' but all things are naked and exposed to the eyes of Him to whom we must give an account. '

That being the 'type' it would seem that the 'anti-type' would be for you to expose the Shepherd Book to the eyes of the whole congregation. This would be in keeping with the principal set forth in God's word and would no doubt have God's blessing. In fact, the holy spirit may be directing your thinking on this matter. You can never go wrong in revealing 'all truth to all people'. "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".

Do it. Let the chips fall where they may.

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Do the Mormons have a 3 witness rule?

by Esse quam videri in

moroni 6:7 states,.

' and they were strict to observe that there should be no iniquity among them; and whoso was found to commit iniquity, and three witnesses of the church did condemn them before the elders, and if they repented not, and confessed not, their names were blotted out, and they were not numbered among the people of christ.'.

any comments?.

Esse quam videri

Moroni 6:7 states,

' And they were strict to observe that there should be no iniquity among them; and whoso was found to commit iniquity, and three witnesses of the church did condemn them before the elders, and if they repented not, and confessed not, their names were blotted out, and they were not numbered among the people of Christ.'

Any comments?